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of what we wanted. tink: Yees - re passive aggressive it is quite enlightening to think of that whole area of writing about pedagogy and seduction - remember Jane Gallop? tink: linda have you passed out? lina: i'm still here lina: why fiction? *** Signon: Newbie lina: has someone joined us? tink: not on mine lina: ok lina: we'll see what happens *** Signoff: Newbie tink: to get back to ficto-crit - have you been able to formulate a plan for this project - i mean your own 'outcome'? tink: i have always written fiction - i love it, and it enables me to have space. Scary space. lina: no not really because my interest is really the inquiry, the experience and then writing about that. theorising it. I feel the same way about writing non-fiction. it's perhaps the relationship to writing - like this whole process - a mental space which continual folds and unfolds ... may not best descritpion lina: scary space is an interesting idea tink: Yes: scary space is quite a good name for something like this project lina: it coalesces with kristeva notion of the abject as being a space of inbetween (scary, unfamiliar territory, broken ground, etc) lina: however, i wouldn't call this experience abject tink: i have done a lot of reading on flight and feminism and post-modernism - disembodiment, utopia coz thats sort of what the novel is about in a very mundane way. re: abject; I'm glad. tink: well, some reading tink: wouldn't want to talk myself up here tink: up up and away... lina: i read something about flight and feminism recently - it had something to do with why women stopped flying in the early days of aviation tink: oh what was it- my mother was an airhostess tink: an embodied conduit for passenger comfort lina: i'll try to find it tonight - it was from a book that someone had given me called la princessa - machiavelli for women. it's a funny little book about women's power tactics in the 90s, it's kind of quirky - a cross between a self-help book and feminist text. lina: full of advice like 'your enemies are those who will thwart your dreams' tink: i couldn't agree more. i'll paste in onto my screen tink: or; 'if they're not behind you they're in front of you' tink: i.e. compete!! tink: you know this is so much fun i feel guilty lina: it also says that the power structure wasn;t designed for women to compete in so we have to develop new strategies - those masculinist war/warrior ones just can't work for us ... she seems to adopt a more fluid idea of power for women - along foucaultian lines. i am really enjoyuing myself too. is this work? lina: or rather is this writing? or perhaps reasearch? or perhaps the poetics of the web? lina: :) |